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Post by Ross Hoss on Jun 15, 2011 12:14:25 GMT -5
Hey Final 3! Congrats on making it where I couldn't. There is no doubt that this season was a tough one for me. Because people were so against me and my "threatening" ways , I could barely make a move because no one was willing to make it, and I had to be more concerned about keeping my ass from being eliminated each round than making big moves to get big players I recognized, such as Sidney, out of the game.
I hate being in your position and having to answer a million and one Jury questions from each Juror, so i'm going to try to keep the questions to a minimum. However, I would like to personally address all of you first.
Jill: You know, I feel like you did play a good game. For the first half of the merge at least, you pretty much did control how the votes went, and you developed a solid alliance that made it so even when you were in danger, you weren't. By getting me and Anthony on your side, you got people that weren't even on your side to develop a trust in you because... let's face it, we really had no other option. I also felt the same in you somewhat almost telling me how to vote each round, but I had no other option most of the time than to go with it, because SURPRISE! I was usually the other person being targeted. I appreciate you helping me in this game tremendously.
Sid: You're another person that helped me a lot, from the first vote right before I had to win my way back on Redemption to later in the game. I appreciate the fact that you were (for the most part) honest with me, and that you also did try to help me out at certain points. I ALWAYS recognized you were a threat because of your social play. You seemed to be pretty good with everyone and your name never really came up come voting time. Also, I feel you had a big influence in the votes the SECOND half of the merge, and you were another great player. However, I only talked with you here and there, and did not feel as close to you as I did with Jill.
Trudie:
I'm going to really make this clear. Usually going into the finale EVERYONE has a shot at my vote. However, your Opening Statement could possibly be one of the worst Opening Statements I have seen...ever. Do you really think that by insulting the other jurors and reacting to anything they say in the manner you do is going to win you votes from people who, truthfully, don't think you played that much of a game anyway? You say that we're the ones with the mental issues and that would need a psych ward, yet you're the one who lied countless times throughout this game for no apparent reason and held no true allegiance to anyone, and is in need of some serious anger management. To me, those sound like the telltale signs of a psychopath. How were YOU not the Killer in SCR4AM? Besides the point. I don't want to waste your time, you will not have a shot at my vote, so don't bother answering my questions.
Now, my questions, as we've established, are only to Jill & Sid: -I want you two to differentiate your games. What makes the both of you stand out from the other person and why do you deserve to win over that person? and secondly... -Had the Final 5 Tribal Council gone as planned, I am assuming Jill would have been voted out from the looks of things (Kate can probably confirm this... as we know, Casey did not receive the majority of the votes). To be brutally honest, I strongly believe Casey definitely would have gone for more than four hours in that final Immunity and probably won it. How do you guys think the Final 4 Tribal Council would have played out had Casey been immune? I'd also like to know why you should win when both of you may have actually been voted out had Casey not dropped out of the game, when quite honestly, she was actually playing a very strong and underrated game, in my opinion.
Thanks guys, and may the best cousin win!
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Post by Trudie Harrold on Jun 15, 2011 14:20:18 GMT -5
Newsflash Ross! We never liked each other! So don't act all concern about my opening statement. We both know it was between Jill or Sid before openings started. So save the act!
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Post by Jill Roberts on Jun 15, 2011 14:44:08 GMT -5
answer will come tomorrow ross, today has been hell <3
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Post by Ross Hoss on Jun 15, 2011 14:56:26 GMT -5
Newsflash Ross! We never liked each other! So don't act all concern about my opening statement. We both know it was between Jill or Sid before openings started. So save the act! Actually I don't vote based on personal reasons Trudick. I've voted for people i've feuded with in the past because point blank they played the best game. Unfortunately, for you, you're just a raging delusional bitch who stands no shot at winning the game, and upon realizing that BLAMES it on everyone else. There's a reason no one likes you. NEWSLFASH TRUDIE: It's YOU!
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Post by Trudie Harrold on Jun 15, 2011 15:34:36 GMT -5
TRUDIE! Is going to say whatever the fuck she wants to say and no one is going to do a damn thing to stop that!
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Post by Ross Hoss on Jun 15, 2011 15:43:44 GMT -5
Well about damn time. You were invisible the rest of the entire game compared to everyone else.
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Post by Trudie Harrold on Jun 15, 2011 15:58:11 GMT -5
Oh really? Whos in the finals and whos on jury? Yeah thats right! You dont know anything about me so shut your face!
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Post by Sidney Prescott on Jun 15, 2011 16:12:16 GMT -5
There were a few major differences between my game and Jill's. I feel like I was a more approachable, low key player. As it's been pointed out, I was never really anyone's target. I think that had to do with the fact that I just have a very chilled out personality anyway and playing the game was important but I'm playing with all of you and you all have feelings and personalities of your own and I liked just talking about little things. I'm not a deep, meaningful person so if a topic, for example: "Lyk what is, for realz, the meaning of life? Like whoa?" came up... That is most likely how I'd approach the subject, like a stoner surf addict. I don't take myself seriously because it's easier to just be cool about everything. That's what I like about myself and I hope that's what everyone else sees and likes too. Sure, I'm a catty, gossipy bitch too but that's because high school never ends and it's a part of life, I don't care how nice you are, you always have something to say about someone else, because sometimes they just make it too easy. I was content to sit on the sidelines and watch the bigger, more aggressive, personalities ala Marnie Vs Jill, Gale Vs Casey, Chloe Vs Sherrie, Cici Vs Everyone, Kate vs herself JK, because that's just how I role. I don't feel the need to make waves but if I feel things aren't going the way I feel they could, I'll take a stand and say/do something about it. I pride myself on giving my all in challenges. I'm a competitive junky and anytime I get to prove myself, I will. Like I clearly suck at "post as much as you can in 10 minutes", my reflexes aren't what they used to be even though I can still catch a fly in my hand, might be a little squished but it's there. Give me a puzzle, though, and I am on that like peanuts slapping together with butter. I'm not so much in your face but if you get in mine, I will bitchslap you and tell you to calm the fuck down. I look at it as, it is just a game, to take it too seriously is to take yourself too seriously. Never do that, it makes life boring. #2 I have it on good authority that the vote would have tied 2-2-1 at the final five. I know this because I asked Ghostface. I know that my vote went toward Casey, because after she said she was going to quit, I was like, oh heel nah, that shiz ain't happenin'! I can only assume that the other votes were for Jill and Kate. I don't know for sure because Ghostface wouldn't say. If that is how they had turned out the voters would have been myself, Trudie and Casey. At which point I would have voted for Kate, Casey would vote however the hell she wanted too and Trudie, if she was going to remain loyal to Jill and I, would have voted for Kate and Kate would have left. If Casey had won immunity at the final 4, I wouldn't have voted against Jill, I have made myself very clear on that subject in the past. I've been with Jill since day one, it just wasn't going to happen. So it would have come down to if Jill was going to vote for me or Trudie, I would assume she'd vote Trudie and Trudie I assume would have voted Jill since she wanted to go to the finals with me. Casey, again, would have done whatever Casey wanted too so it could have tied or not depending on which of us three she wanted to target. I mean it's all speculation but that's how I could see it play out. I think Casey would have been hella hard to beat in the finals. Say what you will about her, she was a crazy bitch, but she was a smart crazy bitch and she turned her game in a totally new direction at the merge and was in possession of two hidden idols that helped her advance, the only defense I would have had against Casey was that I didn't have the luxury of having items to help me further, I relied on the bonds I made to get me through this and immunity challenges I won without bonus assistance. So to summarize the why I should win question: I don't feel like I would have been voted out in either the final 5 or final 4 rounds based on my own speculation of how events would have taken place. I hope that helped Ross. Good luck to ya!
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Post by Ross Hoss on Jun 15, 2011 16:15:07 GMT -5
Oh really? Whos in the finals and whos on jury? Yeah thats right! You dont know anything about me so shut your face! What does that have to do with you being invisible in the game? Ya nothing. And thanks Sid, great answer!
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Post by Trudie Harrold on Jun 15, 2011 16:18:20 GMT -5
Actually it does because I got here by doing something clearly! Plus is I was invis then why is Kate pissed at me? Why are you pissed at me? Why did Marnie start sending me weird ims? Yeah okay I was invis because no one talked to me Ross good job! Looks like someone is bitter!
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Post by Gale Weathers on Jun 15, 2011 16:29:53 GMT -5
Trudick LMFAO.
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Post by Ross Hoss on Jun 15, 2011 19:47:11 GMT -5
Actually it does because I got here by doing something clearly! Plus is I was invis then why is Kate pissed at me? Why are you pissed at me? Why did Marnie start sending me weird ims? Yeah okay I was invis because no one talked to me Ross good job! Looks like someone is bitter! LMAO ok Trudick. Glad I could provide inspiration for your signature. You're really letting the Jury hate get to your head. You were by no means the Villain of the season, so don't get too full of yourself. You just suck. And i'm not bitter nor pissed at you. I'm happy for Sid and Jill, I think they played great games. I just think you played horribly if you actually wanted to win, and you are failing if you were actually trying to hold on to any chance you had left of winning. That has nothing to do with me being bitter or pissed at you. I just think you're ending your game in an extremely stupid manner. Does that clear things up?
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Post by Trudie Harrold on Jun 16, 2011 1:20:12 GMT -5
i didnt know you replied to this it got hidden from the other posts. anyways why are you worried about what im doing? i made it clear already i dont care if i win or lose. i came into this game to have fun which is what i did. yeah i will admit my attention wasnt fully into this game. i agree as well that jill and sid played good games. but you cant disrespect on how i played the game ross. i didnt have beef with you until your jury statement i should say. im in the finals so deal with it!
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Post by Ross Hoss on Jun 16, 2011 1:27:24 GMT -5
And I didn't have beef with you until you disrespected the entire Jury with your comments lol.
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Post by Jill Roberts on Jun 16, 2011 1:28:04 GMT -5
*gets popcorn*
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Post by Trudie Harrold on Jun 16, 2011 1:28:33 GMT -5
okay it was dry humor. it was kind of a compliment like they were so crazy they made the game interesting!
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Post by Anthony Perkins on Jun 16, 2011 1:30:30 GMT -5
Marnie sends everyone weird IMs
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Post by Trudie Harrold on Jun 16, 2011 1:33:05 GMT -5
there you go, see she gave you jury people a bad look. also to clear things up ross, did you and marnie ever have anything going on? because after i voted you out she started bitching at me.
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Post by Jill Roberts on Jun 16, 2011 15:51:14 GMT -5
Hey Ross.
1. I think the major difference between mine and Sidney's game was that I really stuck my neck out and took major risks, while Sidney remained a bit more below the radar. I maintain if I hadn;t spear headed many big moves, our majority would not have remained in tact and there may have been a whole new final 3 here. For example, directly post merge the trashy girls originally wanted to vote out casey. Casey and I had chatted, she told me she had a hidden immunity idol, and that she wanted us to work together, and so I told my alliance we should all vote Marnie over Casey, because I had heard Marnie had brought my name up. I told my alliance I would tell casey to play her idol, so we could flush it, that seemed the only way to get them to vote out marnie instead. But of course I didnt tell casey that, I told her we were voting marnie. I did this to ensure our alliance could use casey's vote at a later stage.
At one point there was distrust between trudie and gale, I tried to smooth things over with them both, to ensure we all stuck together, as a voting bloc.
Anthony, and you Ross, I also added to my list of alliances because I knew if I could get all of my alliances to vote together in the merge, we would all be safe, until we then had to turn on each other. Of course there were some hiccups along the way, but many votes did go according to plan, Marnie, Kirby, Charlie, Jenny, and you Ross.
I believe it was my social game and constantly trying to keep a majority voting together that got both me, and my alliance this far. Despite Kate's belief, I did try to keep as honest as possible with those closest to me, maintaining honest communication with ross, anthony, sid and gale throughout the game. The lies I had to tell I didn't tell for fun, it was to try and further myself in the game. For example, once I realised Kate was passing on information I was giving her to other people, I started telling her completely made up stuff, but unfortunately, it seems trudie was telling her what was really going on anyway.
2. Casey and I had worked together on and off since merge, as I have mentioned, and at f5 I asked casey to vote out kate, and I promised I would take her to f3 over trudie. She replied saying that she agreed. casey had also sworn to me at an earlier stage that he would not write my name down. That's why they idoled out gale, and not me, who kate wanted to go for. So if it was 2-2-1 as Sid has confirmed, then it was 2 votes me from trudie and kate, 2 votes kate from me, and casey, and one vote casey from Sid. If casey hadnt posted she was leaving, sid would have stuck to her kate vote, and kate would have been voted out. If it had been a tie, then it would have been casey, trudie and sid revoting, and since casey didnt write my name down all game, i believe they would have voted kate out, even if trudie voted me. At final 4, if kate was voted out at f5, i think that casey, sid and i would all have voted trudie, and have had a casey, sid, jill f3. But that is really just my speculation.
So I don't think either of Sid, or I stood much of a chance of going home at that stage tbh, if I have the facts right, and am reading them correctly.
In summation: I was constantly trying to make big moves to further not only myself, but my alliances, and I also tried my best to keep people who I developed friendships with, such as casey, ant, and you ross, in the game as long as possible, even when the trashy girls all wanted to vote you out, I kept trying to steer the votes elsewhere, until I had no where left to steer.
Thanks <3 Hope that helps.
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Post by Jill Roberts on Jun 16, 2011 15:52:08 GMT -5
To clarify, if gale hadnt been idoled out, gale, sid and jill would have been my ideal f3, since we were together from the get go.
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Post by Jill Roberts on Jun 16, 2011 15:58:40 GMT -5
One more thing, sorry, lol, to clarify what I mean by sticking my neck out: When it came to a vote and no one had suggested anything, I was often the one who initiated the voting conversations, like, "do you want to vote so and so? this is why I think we should". Which meant that other members of my alliance, if they wanted to, could easily say to whoever I was suggesting, oh by the way JILL was the one who brought your name up. But I felt like if I didnt initiate it, we might all go in diff directions, and lose our majority. That's what I mean by I took more risks, in trying to maintain a majority, and thus often became the target of hatred for being the initiator of voting many jury members off, even tho majority of the time my alliance went along with me.
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